There is something about viewing a waterfall in a wilderness setting that is so special. Moraine Creek Falls, also known as Talking Falls, located near Dorion is no exception.
Round-trip : 250 m
Difficulty: Moderate (due to steep section)
Location: Dorion, ON
Google Map and directions can be found here.
This hike is not far from Wolf River Falls and a lot of people see both on the same day.
Dorion is located on Highway 11/17 approximately 70km east of Thunder Bay. Moraine Creek falls can be found by traveling another 35km from Highway 11/17 down Fish Hatchery road. You will need a 4×4 vehicle to get to the trailhead.
Two trails can be found from the parking location. There is a short easy trail to the top of the falls that provides some good views. The trail to the bottom of the falls is more difficult because it is steep and mossy. There is a fixed rope in place to assist you with the descent but extra care will be needed.
I totally agree!
This falls is very pretty and is a natural treasure. Unfortunately some folks are leaving a negative foot print . I hope it can be enjoyed for many years and does not end up like wolf river falls with tree cutting and garbage left! Enjoy dont destroy.
FYI – do *not* follow google maps to ?Moraine Creek?. It?s not the right place and there?s no hiking trails there.
Follow the route to Wolf river Falls , it?s another 4.7 km past that to the turnoff- once you hit that turnoff it?s another 2.6km of very muddy, very rough road. Absolutely do not attempt this without a 4wd vehicle with good clearance that you aren?t too attached to the paint job on.
The trail to the head of the falls is easy and very very short. It?s on the left if you?re facing the water ,with a rusted barrel pointing the way
The trail to the bottom of the falls isn?t hard if you?re reasonably fit but not at all accessible. It?s very steep, slippery and you need to use the ropes, so use your judgement.
The falls are beautiful!
October 2016:
These falls are stunning! Two amazing views, and easy to find trails (once you get there!) … the road is exactly 4.7 kilometres from the wolf river falls parking area on the left. You will need a 4×4 vehicle. The puddles on the road look deep, but gravel underneath will prevent you from getting stuck!
Happy hiking!
I enjoyed these falls alot. I came in through fish hatchery/wolf river/wolf pup road. As of July 2016, there’s no “talking falls” sign. 4×4 is not needed until you start down the final road to the falls (that last flag on the map, which are life savers).
I went about 200m down that road in my Toyota Yaris hatchback and then unloaded the bike. The puddles (lakes really) were so large though that I eventually just left the bike behind. Needless to say my feet were completely submerged in water even when I tried to bushwack it around the puddles. The missing item was rubber boots (or just a 4×4 vehicle).
The road ends at the falls, so you can’t miss the trailheads. The ropes are still in good shape going down to the falls. Thank you to the site! I would have never known in a million years!
Thanks to Beverly?s comment above, we also left TBay, took Hwy 527 to Dorion Cut-off road and then followed that to the Wolfpup road. It was a great drive and not one other car! Then turned onto the Wolfpup and had to give way to a car right then. Did Talking Falls first, then Wolf River Falls.
I would suggest updating the name of this to Talking Falls as well, since that is how the road is signposted now (or not, so that it doesn?t get too well known!). We didn?t have a 4?4, and there are some deeeeeep puddles along that road, so we biked the last km instead. Got to the top of the falls and loved the lookout from there and then found the path to the bottom as well. It was peaty and a bit slippery but manageable with care (our 7 yr old did it). Simply stunning.
Drove back via Fish Hatchery road and back to TBay. A long but enjoyable day.
Thanks to Beverly’s comment above, we also left TBay, took Hwy 527 to Dorion Cut-off road and then followed that to the Wolfpup road. It was a great drive and not one other car! Then turned onto the Wolfpup and had to give way to a car right then 😉
I would suggest updating the name of this to Talking Falls as well, since that is how the road is signposted now (or not, so that it doesn’t get too well known!). We didn’t have a 4×4, and there are some deeeeeep puddles along that road, so we biked instead. Got to the top of the falls and loved the lookout from there and then found the path to the bottom as well. It was peaty and a bit slippery but manageable with care (our 7 yr old did it). Simply stunning.
We just visited here yesterday. The sign on Wolf Pup Road says “Talking Falls”. We came in from Hwy 527, down the Dorion Cut off (Wolf Lake Road) to Wolf Pup, then followed the trail to “Talking Falls”. We found the hike down to the bottom of the falls to be quite strenuous as we are getting on in years and our body parts don’t move as well as they did a decade ago! The rope is a lifesaver! I would caution hikers not to take the hike if they have difficulty climbing. Only one way in and out… if you get to the bottom and see the gorgeous falls you’re still going to have to climb your way back up!
We came back to the city via the Wolf Lake/Fish Hatchery Route …. a beautiful circle tour!
This is my favourite waterfall, I’m so glad you made it Amii!
We weren’t sure if we were going the right way, but we found it. Very beautiful waterfall. Another hidden treasure. Can’t wait to visit more waterfalls.
Moraine Creek Falls is not the same place as Wolf River Falls. Make sure you are really looking at the maps in each hike as the written directions are just a quick summary. I hope all readers know that! Please use the maps! It is a challenge to find your way to Moraine Creek Falls but it is a magical place…I hope you can find it Barry!
I believe this is the same place as WOLF RIVER FALLS Correct me if i’m wrong.